frontiermarine wrote:merlin have you had issues withdrawing money from tradestation.com before?
I never traded with TradeStation before. I moved to them AFTER I lost money trading eMini Futures and found TradeStation as THE solution to not repeat that mistake again by programming my trading system(s) and backtest it to see if it is good now but also good in the past too.
This is usually the path that most Traders take....
-They watch a few videos on youtube or ordered some trading courses on DVDs.
- They then start thinking of a system (when to buy/sell, etc...)
- They test with a demo account and they lose money. Then they know their system didn't work so they start all over again.
- They test a new system with a demo account and now they make money so they think their system works and ALWAYS worked... hehe BIG MISTAKE. They get in with real money and lose it.
Because what is working TODAY may not work tomorrow so the more days you can find in the past where your system was profitable, the more chances you have of having a solid system that will make money in the future.
- Once they see that their system worked last month but not 1 or 2 months later, they realize that they needed to backtest their system in longer periods and this is where they turn to TradeStation because they are the best in this field. This is where I am right now.
My initial goal was to find my system, deposit the minimum which is about $3,000 and trade it but lately I found out that it would make more sense for me to lease it to others. This way I could make some $$ too and it would help others profit from it too.
In other words, I don't know if I will have a trading account with TradeStation. I may just least my system $1,000/month per client and live from this.
You can do like I did and go on trading forums and ask around but TradeStation is very solid. In the business since 2001 and part of the elite. I don't think they would get these awards by not paying others. They are not some illegal caribbean casinos that steal your money. They have big offices in Florida.
frontiermarine wrote:does
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No they don't.
Most new or low level brokerage firm use MT4 or MT5 trading platform which is an open code trading software that people use to trade with those smaller firms like FXCM, OANDA, Alpari just to name a few. MT4 or even MT5 don't have the KASE bar charts like I explained above so my system will not work with them.
This year, TradeStation even added a SECONDS CHART meaning that if you don't like KASE charts and prefer time chart like 5 Minutes or 1 Minute charts, then you can now go with a 30 seconds chart or a 5 seconds chart which can give you a faster warning of an explosion in price but again you will need to open an account with TradeStation to see those advanced charts. If you are not using TradeStation the minimum chart you can use is the 1 Minute chart and as I explained above, you can miss big moves with those types of bars.
FXCM or OANDA are the 2 I would recommend to start with in Forex since unlike TradeStation which work with top traders by charging a minimum of $2,000 to open a Forex account, those 2 can let you open a Mini or Micro lot for as low as $50 but remember that with a Mini Lot, you make 10% of the usual Standard Lot that I work with using my system so as I write this this $600 profit would be just $60 on a Mini Lot account or just $6 on a Micro account.
My system will always be targeted at Traders who have the money to open a "real" trading account (aka Standard Lot) using at least $3,000 (I would recommend $10,000 if you can) and not have to scratch the bottom of their pockets to find the $50 to open a Forex account with FXCM or Oanda.
I know that many people are on this forum to become rich and they don't have the $10,000 or even the minimum $2,000 amount that TradeStation are asking for but remember that even if I post updates my system on this forum, I am not designing it for forum members but for traders who have money to risk (because you can still hit bad days and lose some money even with a good trading system) and are looking for a fairly good system to make more $$.
I guess that if you are on this forum and would like to lease my trading system one day, you will first need to do a NAP on attracting that initial trading investment to buy a Standard Lot (which is around $2,600 at tradestation) because my system will not be profitable for you if you trade Mini or Micro account because instead of making between $5,000 and $10,000 and give me $1,000 each month you will make only between $500 and $1000 with a Mini account or between $50 and $100 per month with a Micro account so how will you be able to pay the $1,000 monthly fee?
I know it sucks when you don't have the money for it (if that is your case that is) but I have made my choice and will stay with the elite software and elite traders and will not go to the bottom of the Forex barrel with those Mini and Micro account that makes no profit not just for me but for the trader too.
The way I see it, if you don't have at least $2,600 to risk then maybe you shouldn't be in the trading business.
If you really want to start with $50 and those Micro accounts, then go ahead and open an account with FXCM but good luck at trying to makes 100s of $$ here because at $0.10 per pip, you won't get rich quick.
Once again, a Standard Lot pays $10 per pip (that's the level I work at), a Mini Lot pays $1 per pip and a Micro Lot pays $0.10 per pip.
Serious traders and investors only work with Standard Lots. Broke people work with Mini and Micro Lots. It's not a judgment, it's a fact. Nothing wrong with testing your trading skills on a Micro or Mini account because they lose a lot less but they pay a lot less too.
Good luck
Merlin